Putting in a new sub panel in the garage! Rough in inspection complete, and I was only “Dinged” on a couple of things.
I need to add “Protection” to the wires running on the backboard. (Bottom complete, still working on the top)
The other thing is the biggie, not only do the outdoor outlets need to be GFCI’s with bubble covers, they also need to be both tamper resistant, (NEC Article 406.11) and weather resistant! (NEC Article 406.8)
So if you are doing an install with permits, the $4 GFCI outlets no longer cut it…
Attached is a picture of the panel. I’ll post the outside when the final inspection is complete.
Here are the outlets (and bubble covers) on the wall. Each outlet is on its own 20 amp circuit.
The red bike hooks are to help route / hold the extension cords, and the dots between the top outlets are the mounting screws for one of the controllers.
So if you are doing an install with permits, the $4 GFCI outlets no longer cut it…
Nice to have a few near the roof line.
Lucky guy. In St Louis with permits means you must have a registered (in this county) electrician do it. The inspectors are picky and no homeowner wiring is approved so .. we don't tell anyone if can get away with it. Homeowner can't even ask for an inspection or file a permit.
I just got a new sub panel for a basement remodel. The overall project needed a permit so the electric also had to have one. Had the electrician put the panel in the right spot to make it easy for me to run new circuits for the yard... but I have to wait until after the final inspection so the inspector won't know. That guy was tough! He made me take out the cat5 for the controllers. I did, but I am going to put it back later. quoting "Him:That can't be there. Me:Its just cat5 Him:Let me say this again real slow so you can understand. THAT CAN'T BE THERE! I don't care WHAT kind of wire it is.. if its WIRE.. it can not be there." The cable was 30 feet from the new panel but in the same remodeled area.
Tom here - met you at SLAM....I agree about doing it without permits....my policy is if it's inside, no one is going to know. If it's outside and a small project just do it! As for not being allowed to get a permit that's not exactly true in the City. I"m not sure if you're talking city or county, but in the city, homeowners can take a short test on basic wiring and after passing can pull a permit for things like new outlets and lights. I've never bothered though.
Hey Tom !
Looked it up. You are right. I thought the electrician had to do it. But I wouldn't go embarrass myself with a test!
The danger of cat5 still eludes me but I plan on putting it right back in the same spot after its all approved.
(Waiting.. Two lights on back-order and electrician wants to do final install all on the same day. Argg)
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