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cenote
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 Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 02:11 pm
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Thought I would post here asking what peoples feelings are about jumping onto Windows 7.  Figured most users on here are pretty computer savvy, and seem to reply a lot quicker than other sites.

Just spent 8-10 hrs formatting hard drives (Had to reset my arrays of Raids) and reloading Vista.  Wondering if I am wasting time, and should just go out today and buy win 7.  Have heard only good about it so far, can't believe there isn't any problems yet?  I tried the Beta Version this spring, and had a lot of problems with drivers.  But that was also on a older machine.

Thanks, Chuck



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I didn't vote because I just bought a new Vista laptop, purposely. I ran the beta of win7, and all I can say is Kudos to Apple for the media storm they used to convince a country full of Lemmings that Vista was a terrible OS. I must either be extremely more intelligent, or conversely, much more stupid than the rest of the world... Because I absolutely love this operating system. ...and I think I stand alone. win7 is little more than a recoil to the irrellivant backlash from the Apple media storm. I'll bet the reason it doesn't have a real name is because chopping everything out of Vista and boxing it as a retail product called win7 happened so fast the name-making dept. hasn't had time to think something up and respond. They were already working on the names for an upcoming 128bit OS, which has been canned because MS had to backpeddle from a 64bit. The simple problem here is, Gates didn't force the S/W authors to write 64bit code that would work. Not his own, or any others. So we get to take a step backwards because of all the people who gum up their computers with garbage software they get for free over the internet... then blame an expertly developed OS for the result. A fellow IT pro recently purchased an apple product and said he hasn't had to search Google for instructions to repair something that wasn't working on it to date. He also made referrence to the number and frequency of repairs he's had to make to XP and Vista machines. I agreed with his statement about XP and Vista, but I keep notes. First, in the three + years I've used Vista, I personally have had 2 occasions where something on my own computer(S) had to be "fixed"  However more than half of the problems I solved for other users of both XP and Vista occurred just after new software installations (A problem you won't have with apple because there's only 3 or 4 useful applications available for the simple minded piece of crap!) All of the major problems that resulted in me having to completely overhaul a machine were caused by free utilities (bug removers, spyware catchers, speed improvers) all of which had jammed in spyware, along with an IE toolbar, a freeware excel file editor, changed 2/3rds of the file associations, altered the registry repeatedly until it slit it's own wrists... and then they wonder why "it runs so slow!" That's because you feed it like you eat. High cholesterol, High calorie, fat food! It's dying becuase you forced it to swallow the most lethal things you could find. ...and that 1-900-whatever.com website you spent all those hours on, that didn't help it, well it helped it along to it's untimely demise! You adults will remember an old line from the early days... "GIGO" Well I have a new take on that "GIDCU" Garbage-in, Dead-Computer-User"

IMHO Apple=LEDs+win7

Vista=a usable, secure, functional, versatile, stable platform to make blinky flashy.

One equation is for some of the people, the other is for Lemmings...

Jeff



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HowardShank
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Both my wife and I currently run Windows 7 on various systems. We are early adopters. We also use Vista, XP, 2000, 2003, 2008, SuSe and RedHat.

Windows 7 in fact at the core is Windows Vista. They have streamlined the OS making it faster, maintained the security controls built into Vista but have made them less obtrusive to users in Windows 7.

Win 7 Pros: 
 - Faster, stable, new features.
 - Setup was a breeze
 - Has Windows XP mode which is a Virtual PC of Windows XP.
 - No more classic mode for the control panel

Win 7 Cons:
 - Not all drivers are available for legacy devices. For instance I could not install my broadband modem on Windows 7 and the Vista driver installer application refused to recognize Windows 7 to install it.
 - Six, yes, 6 different versions. Startup, Home Basic(Available outside US only), Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate & Enterprise (Volume License), but basically you just need to know about Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate for the every day user.
 - No more classic mode for the control panel
 - Joining a domain requires Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise

I've been running LOR in Windows 7 and XP. I have not experienced any issues except for the hardware utility quitting, but I'm not certain it's a bug yet. The RS485 drivers installed with no problems and all the software seems to be working fine thus far.

There are lots of other pros and cons, but over all Windows 7 is a definate improvement in my opinion.

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HowardShank wrote: - Joining a domain requires Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise


Regards,
Howard
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What's this mean, not sure what you mean by a domain?



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cenote wrote: HowardShank wrote: - Joining a domain requires Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise


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Howard
(MCSE & Software Developer)
What's this mean, not sure what you mean by a domain?


There are multiple types of network configurations, peer-to-peer, client/server, etc. A domain is utilized in client/server type of networks where there are domain servers, member servers and workstations, much like a business would run.

A peer-to-peer network is what most people at home would have configured. This is where you log into the local workstation and you setup shared directories and connect between the computers. Also known as Simple Sharing or Simple Networking. This is supported in all versions of Windows 7.

In larger networks, business or homes of geeks there may be a network domain controller that users authenticate to when they attempt to logon to a workstation. This type of networking in Windows 7 is only supported in Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise.

Hope that helps.

Howard



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My biggest complaint from vista and windows 7 is that I don't like the appearance. I think that Vista's appearance is gloomy and dark, and Windows 7's is just OK. I've been an XP user for forever, and I guess I'm just used to it.



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HowardShank
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How is it gloomy and dark? You can change the colors, themes, etc. to be anything you'd like it to be.



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 Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 02:01 am
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Thanks Howard, it does



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my next comp is gonna be a MAC...hopefully LOR makes things compatible with MAC by then


just got a new comp...$1000 and 2 months in and already having issues with it...getting tired of windows



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