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michael.farney
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It's nice for us that you love this so much Greg... but probably hard on you huh?

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Greg Young wrote: Peter B wrote: Hi All,

Being a newbie and based in the UK (so cannot easily get to special events that go on throughout the year) I and probably many more would pay for a professionally made DVD by you guys or LOR. Then we would be able to view on the TV whilst learning on the laptop etc.

ANYBODY going to take this on ;)

Pete.

Ps: Aimed at you Michael.farney. get you into a pro studio (that'll be good, and earn you money).



Like I need anymore work, but I can never refuse a challenge, so...

Mike Farney, if you are at all interested in a DVD production, email me, and we can talk further. It seems I some ideas all of a sudden..

Email me at: geyoung@roadrunner.com

Greg

PS Pete - My DVDS are produced in NTSC. While I can completely edit the audio and video, and then output into the PAL format, none of my monitors, etc will accept PAL, which makes it a little tough to assemble the edited video into a DVD!;)

I could I suppose output it in PAL DVD format, without any chapters (as I couldn't see the video to insert same), but I being the rather picky sort I am when it comes to quality, wouldn't feel I did a good job...

Hmm, got to think about a PAL formatted DVD a little more....

 


Greg, The NTSC format makes no difference to me here in the UK. I can view both formats.

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Jeff Millard wrote: It's nice for us that you love this so much Greg... but probably hard on you huh?

Jeff


Hey Jeff:

My wife would have something (actually quite a bit) to say about all of that. Fortunately (for me) she is not on any of the forums, and didn't catch me volunteering for anything else..

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Peter B wrote: Greg Young wrote:
PS Pete - My DVDS are produced in NTSC. While I can completely edit the audio and video, and then output into the PAL format, none of my monitors, etc will accept PAL, which makes it a little tough to assemble the edited video into a DVD!;)

I could I suppose output it in PAL DVD format, without any chapters (as I couldn't see the video to insert same), but I being the rather picky sort I am when it comes to quality, wouldn't feel I did a good job...

Hmm, got to think about a PAL formatted DVD a little more....

 


Greg, The NTSC format makes no difference to me here in the UK. I can view both formats.

 

That makes it even easier!

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I have been following this thred very closely trying to figure out the beat wizard.  Maybe it is th esong that I am doin but I cannot get it to work.  No matter how short or how long I make the beat wizard play it never gets the beat right.  Also I hate the fact that it messes up my timing grid.  It takes out the .10 secong grid boxes and adds all kinds of others.  I even had it turn a dummy channel on and off and it made the timing all whacky.  All the time I spent trying to get it to work I could have played visible screen and inserted my beatsin myself.  The song I am using is TSO Carol of the Bells.  I am just hoping it is the song.  I ABSOLUTLY HATE   the fact that it adds different timings in my grid.  The tapper wizard did that to me and that is why I stopped using that.  What I mean is I have my channels set up at .10 timings.  When I use the beat (and tapper) wizard I get all kinds of different timings.  I get a tenth of second, then a hundreth of a second then a half a second then a quarter of a second and so on.  It makes it difficult to sequence when it is all different timings.

 



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JimCanfield wrote: I have been following this thred very closely trying to figure out the beat wizard.  Maybe it is th esong that I am doin but I cannot get it to work.  No matter how short or how long I make the beat wizard play it never gets the beat right.  Also I hate the fact that it messes up my timing grid.  It takes out the .10 secong grid boxes and adds all kinds of others.  I even had it turn a dummy channel on and off and it made the timing all whacky.  All the time I spent trying to get it to work I could have played visible screen and inserted my beatsin myself.  The song I am using is TSO Carol of the Bells.  I am just hoping it is the song.  I ABSOLUTLY HATE   the fact that it adds different timings in my grid.  The tapper wizard did that to me and that is why I stopped using that.  What I mean is I have my channels set up at .10 timings.  When I use the beat (and tapper) wizard I get all kinds of different timings.  I get a tenth of second, then a hundreth of a second then a half a second then a quarter of a second and so on.  It makes it difficult to sequence when it is all different timings.

 


I used to get frustrated with it too for the same reasons.  However, after watching the demo I've started creating my sequences with no timings at all. 

Then I listen through the song a few times to see if I can pick out any obvious tempo changes and note the approximate times that they occur.  Next, using the beat wizard, I choose the time range "Just part of the song" and use the times that I noted previously.

Instead of using the "Turn on a channel every so many beats" option, I use the "Insert a timing event into the track for each beat" option.  That way there is one cell for every beat in the song.  If I need to split the cell into quarter or eighth beats, I just use "Subdivide Timings".

I've found that doing it this way makes my sequences come out much more accurately than the way I had been doing it which was to start out with .05 timings and using the wave form to sort of guess where the beat was. 

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michael.farney
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 Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 04:56 am
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JimCanfield wrote: I have been following this thred very closely trying to figure out the beat wizard.  Maybe it is th esong that I am doin but I cannot get it to work.  No matter how short or how long I make the beat wizard play it never gets the beat right.  Also I hate the fact that it messes up my timing grid.  It takes out the .10 secong grid boxes and adds all kinds of others.  I even had it turn a dummy channel on and off and it made the timing all whacky.  All the time I spent trying to get it to work I could have played visible screen and inserted my beatsin myself.  The song I am using is TSO Carol of the Bells.  I am just hoping it is the song.  I ABSOLUTLY HATE   the fact that it adds different timings in my grid.  The tapper wizard did that to me and that is why I stopped using that.  What I mean is I have my channels set up at .10 timings.  When I use the beat (and tapper) wizard I get all kinds of different timings.  I get a tenth of second, then a hundreth of a second then a half a second then a quarter of a second and so on.  It makes it difficult to sequence when it is all different timings.

 


 

You're trying to accomplish something completely different than the demo.  The purpose of the beat wizard and the demo is to eliminate the need for a timing grid set at .10 (or whatever you like.)   If you prefer to have a grid with .10 timings, then don't use the beat wizard -- it's not going to be any help.   As Rick pointed out, you now start with a blank grid and insert only the timings you need.  The purpose of the beat wizard is to insert timings, so yes, it will mess up your grid every time if you already have timings in it.

 

Ok.  Now, with that said, if you prefer to sequence with a grid set at .10, you're still in luck!  Just use the tapper wizard, and make sure the box about snapping to the current events is turned on.  I am not going to be much help because I don't use that feature, but I'm sure you can figure out how to make it work. 

So, just want to help you understand your goals and goals of the beat wizard are different.   I hope I didn't make it more confusing.  Please feel free to ask more questions.  :):):) 




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 Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 05:13 am
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I get it now!  After all this time it just occured to me by your last post.  I make a track with NO timings, insert timing event, then go from there,  That way I can see where each beat is.  I was trying to do both ways.  Now it makes sense, thank you for your patience.  I will try that on my next song as this is almost finished (only about 4 more hours!!!!).



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